Fair Weather Training

It has been a while since I posted training pictures.  The brown dawgs have been training, but because I had a sick ward going on with Storm and then Nestle, I haven’t been tagging along to take pictures.  Last Saturday I was finally able to go and I was lucky because it was a beautiful day.  It was warm and sunny, but the temperatures were very comfortable.  Since it was a nice day, a lot of people turned out for training.  There were all levels of dogs, from puppies to Master Hunters.

The first series we ran was a land double.  The younger dogs ran this as singles.

Land Double-Marks Were Thrown As Numbered (#1 then #2) and Picked Up In Reverse Order (#2 then #1)

Storm did an awesome job on this double.  I think she is feeling much better now that her mouth is healed.  Her enthusiasm for training is back and she is holding the bumper much better with no dropping.

Storm Off To The Mark

She’s Got It (Holding The Bumper Much Better)

Thunder also did a good job on this double.  As you can see there is some cover in this field so that was good because we can never find it around here.

Thunder Off To Mark #2

He Has It

He Has Mark #1

Good Boy!

After all the dogs ran the land series, we moved to water.  Darrin set up a water triple.  The younger dogs ran this as a double and a single, or three singles.

Water Triple–Marks Thrown In the Order Numbered (1-2-3) And Picked up In Any Order (Ours Picked Them Up In Reverse Order 3-2-1)

The way the triple was set up, Mark #3 was thrown right at the dog and was sort of a breaking mark, meaning that it might be tough for the dog to stay steady for this one.  Mark #1 required the dogs to exit the pond and pick that one up on land.  It wasn’t always visible depending on where it fell because the land has a sort of hill.

Both Thunder and Storm had trouble with the middle mark (#1).  We do not have this kind of water set up available to us and they kept getting pulled off that middle mark (#1) because they were focusing on the gunner who was throwing both #1 and #3, (you can see him in the next picture).  This series was excellent training for them.

Storm Watching The Marks

Good Girl

Thunder With Mark #3

Thunder Off To Mark #2

Trying To Line Thunder To Mark #1–He Keeps Looking To The Gunner And The Area Of Mark #3

Good Boy!

With so many dogs, it took a while to run this series.  That was OK because it was comfortable and cool to watch all of the dogs work.  After we finished the water triple there was just enough time to run a long single.

Thunder Single Water Mark

The white line shows the desired path.  The dogs had to swim the pond, exit the water, cross a strip of land, then re-enter the pond, swim the next section, exit the water and get the bumper on land.

Thunder did pretty well and got out to the bumper, but some how passed next to it and got too far out on land.  He was handled over to the mark.

Storm Running The Single Water Mark

Storm was a little rusty on this.  She got out to the strip of land, but re-entered the pond at the wrong angle.  She did not correct so was handled to that mark.  We need to get her on long water marks again.  Thanks to Darrin for a great training day!

We hope to train with the group again tomorrow if it isn’t too boiling hot.  This week has been tough for us to get out and train due to temperatures near 100 degrees a couple of days.

Have a nice weekend!

The Trained Retrieve

Freighter is off to begin his retriever training with a professional trainer.  Many of you have asked what is involved with this kind of training.  I have attempted to explain it, but I am no expert and it can be a complex subject. Unfortunately this post turned out kind of long even though I tried to pare it down. :)

If you are a regular reader you know that we have spent the last few months building Freighter’s enthusiasm to retrieve without correction or pressure.  Now it is time to formalize his retrieving including “fetch” and “hold”.  This will be done through a process called “force-fetching”, “force breaking”, or ” the trained retrieve”.  I imagine some of the positive only trainers reading this are thinking to themselves: “Yikes! How can anything that has force in its name be good for the retriever?”.  Force-fetch may be one of the most misunderstood and under valued training processes by people unfamiliar with retriever training.  So what is force-fetch and why is it important?

Freighter Watching The Mark

Anxious To Go!

Two well known retriever trainers, John and Amy Dalh, authors of the book, “The 10 Minute Retriever“, have described it this way:

Force-fetching is the process of making a dog absolutely reliable in its bird/dummy handling and delivery. It converts retrieving from a matter of play to a matter of obedience. It provides a foundation of confidence for advanced training–no matter how confusing or stressful a situation, the dog knows that going when sent is the right thing to do. This confidence is the basis of greater style and intensity than is possible in any play-retrieve.

Although many owners are uncomfortable applying systematic direct pressure (i.e. pain) to their dogs, it is far more humane to force-fetch, and yields infinitely better results, than to situationally reprimand a dog that lacks the foundation to understand clearly what its trainer desires.

First published in The Retriever Journal, February/March 1998

Source

In other words it is a training process, using some form of compulsion, to make the dog go and pick up an object in its mouth, carry it, and then deliver it to hand.  But if the dog naturally retrieves why the need for force-fetch?

Nice Retrieve Freighter

Oops…Off To Play

A Primer On Force-Breaking is an article written by another retriever trainer author, James B. Spencer.  This is an excellent article that goes over the basics of force-fetching, including what is involved, the reasons to do it, and a brief history.  Spencer writes the reasons for force-fetching are as follows:

Most experienced retriever trainers routinely force-break their dogs for several reasons. First, it insures reliable delivery to hand. The non-force-broken retriever often drops birds rather than delivering them. This is especially aggravating in water work, where the dog drops the bird on the shoreline to shake water from his coat. A force-broken retriever normally won’t drop birds, but even when he does, he’ll pick them up again on the command Fetch.

In multiple marks, reliable delivery to hand improves the dog’s marking by smoothing the between-bird transition. The force-broken dog delivers each bird at heel and then focuses on the next bird to be retrieved. The non-force-broken dog may play various games with the bird, tossing it up, dropping and picking it up, lunging after it and so on. These not only waste time, but they also dim the dog’s memory of the birds remaining to be retrieved.

I have highlighted two reasons that are important to us.  Long time readers to this blog might remember that I mentioned that Thunder did not start formal retriever training until he was almost 17 months old.  This was because we did not know anything about hunt tests.  He was going to be a hunting dog, and as such may not have needed formal force-fetch.  However, once we decided to play the retriever games, I can tell you that he had many of the problems that Spencer writes about in his article.  He would go out and do a very difficult retrieve and then blow it by not bringing the bird directly back to his handler.  Even though he was eventually force-fetched the problems he had early on before force-fetch still rear their ugly heads at tests now and again, ie dropping birds in the water and going around the back of his handler before coming to heel to deliver the bird to hand.  We wish we had done force-fetch when he was younger.  Heck, we wish we knew then what we know now about training.

Duck Not In Thunder’s Mouth

Not every dog playing retriever games is force fetched and I don’t want to suggest that they are, (a majority probably, but not all).  Some people do not feel they need it, which is their choice.  You can google “force fetch” and no doubt read all kinds of horror stories about brutal methods used.  Maybe some trainers use those methods, but the ones (plural) we have known do not.  There are various methods and as any good trainer will tell you, no one method or process will be beneficial to every dog.  I will not lie and say it doesn’t include some discomfort for the dog, but when Freighter is finished with the process, I expect him to be the same happy-go-lucky puppy.  However, he will understand that fetching is his “job”, including holding the bumper all the way back to his handler, coming directly to heel, and delivering to hand.  But force-fetch is much more than fetch and hold.  The things he learns now will provide the base for learning more advanced retriever skills later.  Force-fetch is about introducing the dog to control so that eventually we hope he will retrieve the things we want, in the order we want, and bring them back in the manner we want.

Freighter Watching A Water Mark

Right On His Bumper And Ignoring A Bumper Left In The Water By Another Dog

Good Boy!

Back To Bank Time To Drop The Bumper

And To Play With The Bumper

Some readers have asked how long Freighter will be with the trainer.  Right now he is there for at least a month because that is how long it will take to complete force fetch, (could be longer, could be shorter).  Darrin, our trainer, does his force fetch as a very gradual process.  Many people do their own force fetch, but we would rather have the professional trainer do it because if done incorrectly you can set your training behind when you have to redo parts of it and we really want Freighter to have a solid force-fetch.  Some people do it a bit younger than 7 months; however, Darrin has worked with Freighter since he was small and we left it up to him when he felt that he was mature enough.  We are in no real hurry because we hope Freighter will have a long retrieving career.  In all likelihood Freighter will probably stay longer than a month to get some training beyond force fetch, but we will decide that toward the end of the 30 days.  Of course we miss him, but we plan to be at Darrin’s training this weekend, (provided the weather cooperates), and will hear about his first week.  :)

Traveling With Dogs

This past weekend while we were driving down the Interstate we saw something crazy.  A pickup truck was pulling a 5th wheel trailer and tied toward the front of the bed of the pickup was a Golden Retriever.  The poor thing was sort of stuffed to the side of the hitch.  We couldn’t get over how terribly unsafe the whole thing looked.  Should that hitch give way, bye-bye Golden Retriever.

It is not always easy to travel with our pets to be sure.  Now that we have three dogs, we have to put more effort in to planning our travels with them.  If at all possible, we prefer to crate our dogs while they are in the car.  In our van we have three crates set up but as you can see there is little room left over for our stuff.  We always seem to have a lot of stuff.  We end up piling it on top of the crates which is not exactly safe for the people.

Thunder And Storm In The Van…Look Close…Freighter Is Toward The Front

We also have crates in the back of the truck.  When it is very hot or very cold, that is not an ideal situation because while the cap on the truck is insulated, it is not meant for extreme weather.

Freighter And Thunder In The Truck At A recent Hunt Test

Often we put a pop-up tent over the truck, but that doesn’t always provide enough shade.

Our Set Up

The other issue with this set up is that we often have to walk away from our dogs and leave them if we are at a hunt test or a dog show.  Sometimes we pad lock the crates, but if someone wanted to mess with the dogs they could get to them.  Believe it or not some people go around to doggie events with the purpose of messing with other people’s dogs.  That is not as much of a problem at hunt tests, but we have been at a dog show when an announcement was made that someone was letting dogs out of crates and to check on your dogs.  Just crazy.

After thinking long and hard, we decided to buy a dog trailer.  For those of you not familiar with dog trailers, they are quite a nice way to transport the dogs.  They are made of stainless and aluminum, well insulated and usually have a built-in fan.  Some even have air conditioning.  They are divided into compartments for the dogs.  I have heard stories of bad accidents where the dogs were OK as long as they stayed in the trailer.  (Of course nothing is full-proof, but they do seem to provide better protection for the dogs than just a crate in a car.)  Many trailers come with water tanks and storage.  Some of the large ones have a place to load an ATV.  Here is one that I drooled over at a test last year.

Nice Rig

Ours will not be as big or as fancy as that rig.  We are only buying a smaller 4 hole trailer which will look something like this one.

4 Hole Trailer

This is not exactly our trailer because we are having some customization done to it.  They are adding three inches to the length since Thunder is such a big dog.  Instead of the storage on top, we are having a “breeze-way” built.  You can see what a breeze-way looks like in the picture of the larger trailer above.  It is a compartment with a door that swings up and will allow air to flow through the trailer and help keep the dogs cool.  I think we are also getting a larger box on the front.  That box holds the battery for the fan, but we wanted a little extra  storage so they are making it a bit bigger.  Ours will have a 20 gallon water tank so we will be able to carry water for the dogs and to rinse them off if needed.

We ordered our trailer back at the end of March from Ainley Kennels.  (If you have a chance check out their site and all of the different kinds of ways they have for transporting dogs.)  It is scheduled to be built and finished by the end of July.  We are very excited to see the finished product.  It has been a long wait since March.  :)