Follow-up Friday 4-5-13

I am pleased to once again co-host this week’s Follow-up Friday Blog Hop with Heart Like A Dog.  Thanks so much to Jodi at Heart Like A Dog for asking me!

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Hosted By Heart Like A Dog

Hosted By Heart Like A Dog

Training With Freighter

Jodi asked:

If memory serves me, you started Thunder and Storm at older ages. Do you find Freighter is catching on faster than Thunder or Storm did? Or is working with an adult dog who already knows ‘the ways of the world’ easier?

You are right.  Thunder was not force fetched until he was about 14 months old.  After that he ran mostly single marks and earned his Junior Hunter title when he was 2 years old.

Thunder Junior Hunter Title 2008

Thunder Junior Hunter Title 2008

He did not start to learn handling until he was 4 years old but we really didn’t do the majority of this training until he was 5 years old.  The only time Thunder ever spent with a professional trainer was for his force fetch.  He was taught handling through a series of private lessons with our trainer who had a lot of patience teaching both Thunder and his handler the basics of handling.

Thunder 2013

Thunder 2013

Storm was not as old as Thunder when she learned handling.  She was 3.  Freighter started learning the basics right after he finished up force fetch last year.  He is still learning, but is far ahead of where Thunder and Storm were at his age.

Storm JH Pass 2009

Storm JH Pass 2009

All of our dogs have been hunting from a young age but it is definitely better to do this kind of training while the dogs are younger.  Thunder had several hunting seasons behind him and was pretty set in his ways.  We had a difficult time teaching him water blinds in particular.  Remember, the dog does not see the bird fall and the concept of following hand signals to a bird was a very difficult one for him to understand.  He had been used to finding his own birds thank-you-very-much!

Freighter

Freighter

This type of training builds on itself.  By that I mean that every time the dog runs marks or a blind, it learns something new and hopefully that experience can help the dog for the future.  Because we did not really know how to set up challenging training for Thunder, he missed out on a lot of testing/training experience.  Thank goodness he has hunting experience, but despite what anyone says, a hunt test is not at all like hunting.  Of course hunt test training does benefit the dog immensely when hunting season rolls around.

Storm 2012

Storm 2012

We saw the training mistakes we made with Thunder, and to a lesser extent Storm, and we wanted Freighter to learn things the correct way from the start.  This is the main reason we have sent him to a pro for his training.  If it all goes as planned, he will be running higher level tests at a younger age than Thunder or Storm.

Gizmo asked:

When our club held January tests we had a number of Northern trainers who brought groups of dogs down south to compete. does your trainer do this? Would you let your trainer take Freighter on the road for tests?

We are pretty lucky in Michigan because we have several hunt tests right in our state and there are also tests in Indiana and Ohio, Illinois and Wisconsin. We don’t have to travel too far to find tests.  Our trainer is taking a truck full of Master level dogs to Indiana for a test next week.  There may come a time when Freighter will go on one of these trips too.  As far as going south, after this never-ending winter, we may all want to travel south next year.  :lol:

Wordless Wednesday-Why Am I Stuck In A Dog Box Next To A Yellow Dog?

I bet the Chessie people got my little joke.  :)

We did not have an extra crate to put Freighter in for training, so one of our pals offered his empty dog box.  The yellow dog is his dog Gunner.  Thank you Craig for the use of your box.

Bethany wanted to know:

Can we see the photos of the fun had once out of the box soon?

There are photos of Freighter here, and here are some of Gunner:

Gunner At The Line

Gunner At The Line

Gunner Whistle Sit

Gunner Whistle Sit

Gunner With A Bumper

Gunner With A Bumper

Another

Another

Good Boy!

Good Boy!

Gunner is running at the Master level.  He did a nice job on Saturday.   Good luck in your upcoming test!

This ‘N That Thursday

Lots of questions about Storm and her pups.  :)

Hopefully, we will get some pictures to share and be able to visit and take pictures.  Storm is expecting a lot of puppies based on the ultrasound.  Of course she had the ultrasound a while ago.  Sometimes the count seen on the ultrasound doesn’t always match up when the pups are born.  I don’t want to say the number so as not to jinx.  :)   Maybe after the pups are born.

Jessica asked:

Will you be involved with the puppies at all? Or does the breeder keep them (and Storm?) the whole time until they’re adopted?

Storm will be with her breeders the entire time and they will take care of the puppies and place them in their new homes.

Miss Mindy and her Mom asked:

Will the breeder call when she is in labor?

If it is in the middle of the night, maybe not.  :)   But yes, we expect we will be updated on how she is doing.

Storm Is Getting Bigger By The Minute!

Storm Is Getting Bigger By The Minute!

Jodi asked:

Those are some lovely photos, is that where some of your training takes place?

The place where we bought our training membership, Omega Farms,  is an actual farm.  They have a lot of different livestock there.  These pictures were taken around the Office and main buildings.  They have extensive training grounds.  Group training is over for this season, so we will be checking the training grounds out this weekend to do a little training with Thunder.  I hope to get pictures, although I will also have to throw the bumpers too.  :)

Training Pond

Omega Farms Pond 2011

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Thunder Takes On A Challenge

The first series Thunder ran at Saturday’s training was a triple.  He did a nice job and picked that up clean.

The next series was something that Thunder has never seen before…a quad or four marks.

The marks were thrown in the order numbered on the diagram.

Quad

Quad–Marks Thrown 1-2-3-4, Picked Up 4-2-3-1

As Thunder watched the marks fall, it was pretty clear that this combination blew his mind a bit.

Thunder Watching Mark #1

Thunder Watching Mark #1 Which Was Out In The Field To The Left And Towards The Back

Thunder Watching Mark #2 Which Was Thrown By His Handler Off To The Right

Thunder Watching Mark #2 Which Was Thrown By His Handler Off To The Right

Thunder Watching Mark #3 Which Was Out In The Field To The Right

Thunder Watching Mark #3 Which Was Out In The Field To The Right And Toward The Line A Bit

Thunder Watching Mark #4 Which Was Thrown By His Handler Off To The Left

Thunder Is Supposed To Be Watching Mark #4 Which Was Thrown By His Handler Off To The Left

As you can see in the picture, Thunder did not turn to watch Mark #4.  He is used to seeing 3 marks, but not 4.  He was fixed on one of the marks out in the field.

Even though he did not watch it, the first mark Thunder’s handler sent him to pick up was Mark #4.

Thunder Being Lined To Mark #4

Thunder Being Lined To Mark #4

Thunder has been trained that if his handler lines him toward something and sends him, then he should run until he finds it.  Where a dog doesn’t see a mark, this can help out a bit.  It took some hunting, but Thunder finally found the bumper.

Thunder With Mark #4

Thunder With Mark #4

Thunder’s handler wanted Thunder to pick up Mark #2 next.  His handler turned his body so that Thunder would come back to heel and be ready to head in the direction of that mark.

Lining Up For Mark #2

Lining Up For Mark #2

Thunder At Heel, Still Looking Out Into The Field, (Remember In His Mind There Is Only Three Marks)

Thunder At Heel Getting Ready To Pick Up Mark #2

Thunder is still thinking about those marks out in the field.  In his mind, there are only three marks.  He is used to retrieving three marks.  He is over thinking this a bit.  After a big hunt, he found Mark #2.

He Has Mark #2

Mark #2

Next he is going to pick up Mark #3 which is out in the field and to the right.

Lining Up For Mark #3

Lining Up For Mark #3

Thunder Catches A Glimpse Of Mark #3 Out Of The Corner Of His Eye

Thunder Catches A Glimpse Of Mark #3 Out Of The Corner Of His Eye

Thunder found mark #3, but he was not really confident about it.  Luckily he caught a glimpse of it as he was running by.  At a test and in cover, unless he catches a whiff of a duck, he might just breeze by that mark, but today he got it. Good job.

Mark #3

Mark #3

Now the hard one, Mark #1.  It is the first mark Thunder saw fall.  He thinks he got all three marks so he is kind of lost on this one.

Lining Up For Mark #1

Lining Up For Mark #1

He could not find this mark, so he was handled to it.  Eventually he got it.

Mark #1

Mark #1

We will definitely train these again, but all in all Thunder put in some nice effort.

Good Job Thunder!

Good Job Thunder!

Frozen Training

We had a white-knuckle dive up to group training this past Saturday due to the snow that fell overnight.  The main reason we went was to check in on Freighter, (more on that tomorrow).  It was a windy, cold, and snowy day so we figured that no one else would be so stupid to show up for training, but we were wrong and there was a nice crowd.  The first hunt test is in about a month, so I guess people are anxious to get out and work their dogs despite the freezing cold weather.

The older dogs ran some handling drills in the snow-covered field and the younger dogs got some single marks.  We decided not to run Storm for several reasons.  No need to put pressure on her right now and running blinds in a cold snowy field is not her favorite thing to do.  Thunder, on the other hand, needs to tune up his handling.  These drills are a great way to do it and well-timed for him.

We ran a series of three drills which used four piles of bumpers set out in the field.  For the first drill, the dogs had to pick up a bumper from the close pile and then one from the far pile on the same side.  Then the dog had to do the same thing on the other side.  It did not matter which side the dog worked first, I numbered the piles the order that Thunder picked them up.  One little catch with this drill, there was a black tube out in the field to the right and the dogs had to go over it, being handled if necessary.  This is one way we work on dogs taking on obstacles and keeping a straight line.

Drill 1

Drill 1

Thunder did fine on this drill even crossing over the tubing.

The second drill that we ran built on the first.  The handler sent the dog to the closer pile, but stopped the dog and handled them to the farther pile.

Drill 2

Drill 2

I have said before that so much of handling is about changing the dog’s mind from where it wants to go, to where the handler wants it to go.  This type of drill is a good way to work on that.  Most dogs will want to go back to that closer pile, but the handler has to change the dog’s mind to go to a different place.

I took a series of pictures of Thunder working the right side which shows what I am talking about.  I apologize for the picture quality.  I was trying to lighten up the pictures and must have changed a setting.  It was too cold to fiddle with buttons so I just went with what I had.  :)

Lining Thunder

Lining Thunder

He Is Off

He Is Off

Headed To The Closer Pile

Headed To The Closer Pile

Stopped--Whistle Sit

Stopped–Whistle Sit–He Would Have Been Given A Left Over

Trying To Go Back To The Closer Pile

Trying To Go Back To The Closer Pile

Stopped

Stopped Again

Nice Whistle Sit

Nice Whistle Sit

Left Over

Left Over

Now this is interesting.  Even though the black tubing is not really in play for this blind, many of the dogs went over it thinking that was what their handler wanted since they had just been handled over it the previous drill.  Thunder was no exception.

Over The Tube

Over The Tube

Whistle Sit

Stopped

Whistle Sit

Whistle Sit–Handling Takes Patience–You Don’t Want To Give Commands Too Quickly

Back

Back

He Has It

He Has It

Back To Heel

Back To Heel

The last drill we did was to send the dogs to the far pile and then handle them all the way across the field to the other pile.

Drill 3

Drill 3

This can be very difficult, because the farther the dog is from you, the more difficult it is to cast the dog.  Thunder had a bit of trouble with this one, but he eventually got there.  All and all, his handling improved over the week before.  At least this week he wasn’t running his own program so much.

By the third drill we were all frozen.  Did I say that it was cold?  Many thanks to Darrin for working with us in the freezing cold weather.