Thunder didn’t fare so well in his first Finished Test.  We entered him because he had been doing so well in his training and we thought it would be a good opportunity to get him in the hunt test frame of mind.  The test was far enough away that it required us to spend the night before in a hotel.  Storm is still with the trainer so we only took Thunder and Freighter.  I was a bit concerned how Freighter would do in the hotel, but he did great.  He really takes most things in stride.  He met a lot of new people hanging out at the test.  It was great socialization for him.

As for the test:  It was quite a bit different from how we have been training for Masters tests.  The morning of the test it threatened to storm and we could hear thunder in the distance, but it stayed far enough away that the test started on time.  The water series was up first.

Water Series

It was a triple with a blind.  The test was in a smaller pond which was ringed with trees.  The marks were close and #2 and #3 were quite tight together.  One thing that was different here was that the “go” bird was a middle mark.  I’m not sure we have trained marks in this order, so we will definitely need to mix this in to our training.  The first bird (#1) was quite close.  That type of mark is often referred to as a breaking bird, meaning that if a dog is prone to break its sit, this bird would entice it to do so.  Thunder stayed nice and steady for all three marks, which was one of the good parts of the test for him.

A couple of things that made this water series difficult were the closeness of the marks, their tightness together, (especially #2 and #3), running a blind so close to mark #1, the blind being “hot” which means that it is in the field when the test starts rather than being placed after the marks are run, the pond itself being full of logs which can throw a dog off because they can draw the dog toward them.  The test was challenging but certainly not impossible.  A very nice little test.

Thunder In The Holding Blind Waiting
Getting The Gun And Ammo Ready
Sitting At The Line
Getting Ready
Shooting Mark 1
Thunder Is Watching Mark 1 (Red Arrow)
Aiming At Mark 2
Thunder Watching Mark 2

In a Finished test there is no sound from the gunner stations as the birds are launched.  The dog is keyed into the bird when their handler fires a popper gun at the mark.  In Masters tests the sound comes from out in the field.  As I said, Thunder was steady; however, when he was sent to Mark #3 he scented Mark #2 as he passed and picked it up.  The bad.  Due to the way the wind was swirling around in the pond (which was down a hill and ringed with trees), many dogs did that.  OK not a DQ.  Next he picked up mark #1.  It was right there in front of him and visible.  Easy.  He seemed to want to mess with the birds.  Bad.  I saw a lot of dogs mess with birds or try to eat them.  These are high level dogs so I am not sure what was up with that.  Going forward, we will be working on Thunder’s “hold”.  Since Thunder messed up his pickup of mark #3, he had to be handled on mark #2.  He did acceptable on the blind.  Not stellar, but OK.  The judges told his handler that he would have to run clean for the land series.

Picking Up Mark 1
Bringing Back The Blind

The land series was “big dog” test.  I think it blew Thunder’s mind a bit.  It was down a steep hill, with the line being on the hill and the test taking place in the field below. I am not sure that this picture shows how far below the field was from the line, but it may give an idea.

Looking At The Line

The field had knee-high grass with cut outs or mowed areas.  The test was a triple, a “hot” blind, a diversion bird was thrown on the way back from the blind, and an honor.  Two of the tree marks were dumped in clumps of the tall grass and the blind was also in a stand of tall grass.

The Field

I took this picture to the side, so the perspective is a bit off, but it was the best I could do.  (Click to see it bigger.)  When I saw this test, I figured it would be difficult for Thunder.  We do not always have the opportunity to train in this kind of field with hills and high grass.  To make matters worse, it had been raining for a couple of hours so the field was quite wet which can tend to hold scent in.

Heading Toward The Line
Sitting At The Line
Watching The Land Marks

Thunder was sent to pick up mark #3 (go bird) first.  He went straight to the area and hunted in the tall grass, but did not come up with the bird.  He tried to play the wind and unfortunately got too far right of that bird.  Once he did that he picked up the drag back scent (the path the dogs had been dragging the ducks back from the blind) and it was like a super highway that lead him right to that hot blind and he picked that bird up.  An automatic DQ.  It was ugly.  A couple of other dogs did the same thing.  The blind was kind of close, but not unreasonably so.

Mark 3 (Go) and Blind

We now know what we have to train.  We need to reinforce to Thunder that he pick up the bird he is sent to fetch.  Self selecting is not going to be an option for him going forward.  We are also going to have to find some cover and make sure he understands that he may have to dig birds out of it and not give up and find an easier bird.

This test was earlier in the season than we normally enter our dogs, so we have a lot of time to work out these issues, except that we entered him in a Masters test this weekend.  Yikes!  We have a lot of clean up to do this week.  In Masters they may have more of the longer entries into the water and in and outs which they do not seem to test in Finished.  (We have been training these things quite a bit.)  We will adjust our training a bit going forward and see how it goes.  🙂

Thanks to the Club and the judges for putting on a nice test.  We had fun despite our frustration with Thunder’s performance.

I hope to have a post this week answering some questions from comments.  However, we are in mad training mode so hopefully I will find time to write it and a chance to catch up on my blog reading/commenting.

15 thoughts on “Thunder’s First Finished Test–The Good, The Bad And The Ugly

  1. What a great way to look at the test, as an opportunity to see where the dog’s strengths and weaknesses are. Next time, he’ll nail it!

  2. It sounds like this was a valuable test for Thunder, though, because you got a chance to see new areas where he needs some work. It also sounds like Thunder was introduced to some new challenges, which is always interesting. Good luck with this weekend’s test! 🙂

  3. I agree that is a great way to look at it. Trial and error helps the learning process. I’m sure Thunder will come along just fine! Maybe he was having a bit of an off day as we all do! 🙂

  4. I’m sorry it was such a disappointing run, but as you said now you know what you need to work on. Sometimes when we’re training we think we’ve got all of the possibilities down and then wham! they throw something else at you.

    I would probably be upset if my dog was the ONLY dog which did something out of the norm, but it seems like many of the dogs were thrown on this one. Keep up the good work and the training, it will pay off in the end.

    Good job Thunder

  5. What a bummer, that automatic DQ! I can completely understand the frustration! Hope that he’ll be able to learn a bit from this and more training for the next time.

  6. I’m sorry to read that it didn’t go as well as you had hoped, but like you said now you know what Thunder needs to work on!
    Thanks for explaining it so well, I am learning more and more each time!

  7. You are teaching us all so much! More training for Thunder, and he eventually do fine.

  8. Tests are always just that… a test, and one of the best ways to see how training is going. So many dogs know when they are training/being setup and thus do well, then you get them in the actual hunt tests and they act like they know nothing. I have no doubt Chessie’s are very good at this too, sounds like there was a lot to learn which I find is always good, even if frustrating. Shows you where to go from here, sounds like you are well on your way though.

    These tests sound awfully complicated compared to what pointers go through. But at the same time i guess there are a lot more factors like birds, brace mates, gunners hitting the actual bird, scent conditions, birds getting up/holding tight etc that we deal with too. Funny how your training season begins when ours is kinda over too.

    Keep up the good work, you’ll get there
    Anna
    http://www.akginspiration.com

    1. Thanks Anna, we will keep plugging away. We also need to get back with our trainer to get suggestions on how to work on some of these things.

  9. It sounds like some great experience for Thunder, and he’ll do better with more experience in that level of testing. I think that the reason the dogs were messing with the birds and trying to eat them was because they were either confused or stressed. Thunder and the other dogs probably knew what they had to do, but it was a new situation that they didn’t know how to handle so mouthing birds was their stress release. That’s the only time Sophie has mouthed a bird, was when she was confused.

    1. It could be, but some of these dogs have run many tests and this one wasn’t that difficult, so I was thinking maybe there was something with the ducks. In HRC they only use dead birds where in AKC they are usually shot that day.

  10. All good experience for Thunder. You found out what you need to work on so it was good in that respect.

  11. Sorry he didn’t perform the way you are accustomed to…these dogs sure keep us on our toes! Glad the test was nice, and you got to see what you need to work on. That’s always a big bonus, and there are always more tests. 🙂 I always look at it this way – if they performed perfect with every test, they’d get all their titles in a month and then we’d have nothing to train for….and training is the fun part!

  12. Hi Y’all,

    How y’all doin’? Just catchin’ up on my readin’. Sometimes it takes a bit to get back into the swing of things. 😉

    Y’all come by now,
    Hawk aka BrownDog

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